they had the exchange on taxes for the first 20-25 minutes and romney did well. i think it was still in question who was really going to win the debate and then jim lehrer said let's turn to the second session on the debt. the first thing he said was the issue of the debt and deficit is not just an issue of money it is an issue of morality. immoral to leave the debt to our children and grandchildren and i thought it was a strong statement and elevated the romney campaign above a kind of we can do a little better for your pocketbook next week than president obama can and put it in a bigger concept and elevated the race into who is the more are responsible steward of this country's finances and well being for the next generation. i thought it was a very important moment for mitt romney. >> geraldo: stand but youle join our all-star panel in a moment. first, news on fast and furious, folks. the botched atf gun running operation and news that hasn't been fully digested by the mainstream media. we know that one of the walked guns was used to kill agent brian terry but